We talk with Nakisha Nathan, Environmental Justice organizer with the Oregon Sierra Club. Just transitions and deep democracy are two aspects of environmental justice and we talk about their interrelationship. We also talk about the difference between the environmental movement historically and who benefited from it, and the environmental justice movement seeking to bring everyone to the table; the differences between the environmental movement and the environmental justice movement and how we need to get all the voices to the table so that those people who have been left out become part of the movement and benefit from it. And we talk about the difference between the extractive economy and the regenerative economy.
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